National Association of County
Veterans Service Officers
Testimony of
Ann G. Knowles, President
before the
United States House of Representatives
Subcommittee on Disability Assistance and Memorial Affairs
109th Congress
On
March 16, 2006
Testimony of
Ann G. Knowles, President
National Association of
County Veterans Service Officers
INTRODUCTION
Chairman Miller, members of the Subcommittee, it is truly my honor to be
able to present this testimony before you. As President of the National
Association of County Veterans Service Officers, I am commenting on:
• Recommendations for the improvements to the accuracy and quality of
service provided by the Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA) to
individuals calling into the VBA.
• Recommendations for the creation of a new Federal/State/Local
Government Partnership to provide Outreach to Veterans and their
dependents.
The National Association of County Veterans Service Officers is an
organization made up of local government employees. Our members are
tasked with assisting veterans in developing and processing their
claims. Between 75 and 90% of the claims presented to the Veterans
Administration each year originate in a county veterans office. Our
members sit across from those men and women who wish to file a claim
each day. They are our friends and neighbors, members of our
communities, whom we see daily. We exist to serve veterans and partner
with the National Service Organizations and the Department of Veterans
Affairs to serve veterans. Our Association focuses on outreach,
standardized quality of training, and claims development and advocacy.
We are an extension or arm of government, not unlike the VA itself, in
service to the nation’s veterans and their dependents.
Our workforce represents approximately 2,400 employees from 28 states
available to partner with the Department of Veterans Affairs to help
speed the process of claims development and transition of our military
personnel to civilian life.
Upon discharge, the service man or woman becomes a veteran who returns
to a local community. When health issues become apparent and help is
needed the most visible and accessible assistance is the County Veterans
Service Officer. As we sit here today discussing the needs of the
veterans across this great land it soon becomes evident that there are
many areas that need attention. Outreach and claims processing
improvements are essential if we are to fulfill the obligation
proclaimed by Abraham Lincoln “…To care for him, who shall have borne
the battle and for his widows and orphans…” This is our focus and
passion.
VBA’s Telephone Units
It appears the majority of the problems center around new staff with a
lack of knowledge of Veterans Administration (VA) programs, and a
disinterest in assisting the veteran or the veteran service officer of
record, if it requires looking up the answer on more than one computer
system. When a veteran calls the number and requests the status of his
or her claim the answer shouldn’t be “that request will have to be made
in writing.” DEFINITELY THE WRONG ANSWER. That is not the only wrong
advice given, on many occasions veterans and widows have been advised
NOT TO FILE A CLAIM, this is the worst kind of bad information. How many
of those veterans or dependents will never receive benefits because of
bad information? When a veteran or dependent calls for help there should
be a ready response of “If I don’t know I’ll find out and get right back
to you.”
The Veterans Administration needs to train the staff at the phone units
on how the VA medical system works. They have little or no understanding
of how basic health services operate (such as In-Home Care, Adult Day
Care, and how to file for Unauthorized Health Care at a Non-VA medical
center). Basic questions such as where to send the paperwork and how
long a veteran has to file a claim should be answered by the phone
units. It isn’t just a lack of knowledge of the VA medical system that
causes county service officers to distrust the information coming out of
these phone units, but many times even the answers on basic claims or
appeals is incorrect and misleading.
The service officers expect to be given information when calling on any
veteran they represent. It is not uncommon to be told, by the employee
manning the phone, we can’t give you that information if the veteran
isn’t with you in the office. The goal of everyone assisting veterans
with benefits should be to do what it takes to get veterans the benefits
they so justly deserve. The people on the phones for the VA should be
some of the best trained in the system.
If first impressions mean anything, the first point of contact with the
VA, 1 (800) 827-1000, has left a bad impression on many a veteran,
dependent and county service officer.
SO LET’S FIX IT
At one Regional Office in Florida, the Service Center Manager has issued
an order to all phone room personnel to 1). Fully cooperate with the
County Veterans Service Officers that call in. 2). Maintain a current
listing of County Veterans Service Officers by county for verification
purposes, and 3). Installed and manned, with highly qualified personnel,
a special phone number for County Veterans Service Officers. This is the
beginning of a true partnership between the Veterans Administration and
County Veterans Service Officers in Florida. What we need is more of
these kinds of cooperative relationships throughout the nation.
OUTREACH
Outreach means different things to different people. Outreach to the
County Veterans Service Officer means directly touching a veteran and
his dependents. The VA concept of outreach is to put posters in the VA
hospitals, clinics, Vet Center and publishing in the Service
Organization magazines. Both of these methods have the ability to reach
a certain segment of veterans.
The outreach that I will address is the hands-on approach. Across our
nation there are veterans that do not think that they are a veteran
because they did not lose a limb or get injured in any way. They came
home and started to work to support their families. They have never
looked for any help from the government. When the veteran dies, their
families still do not know that they are entitled to benefits just
because their husband or father served his country. These are the people
that need outreach. They are mostly lower income and have never reached
out to the VA and therefore they don’t think they are entitled to this
help.
I look at rural North Carolina and see the great need to make these
veterans aware that they deserve benefits, that they are earned
entitlements not welfare. These veterans have never made use of the
VAMC’s, the GI Bill, Home Loan, Pension or Compensation Benefits. They
just served their country and came home. It is so rewarding when you
meet one of these veterans and tell them what they may be entitled to
and see the hope on their face. It sometimes means the difference in
eating or buying medicine. I am sure if a study was completed, you would
see a large number of rural veterans have never used the VA for any
service and did not know that they could. The VA has a responsibility to
reach out and make everyone aware of their entitlement. One of the ways
is for the County Veterans Service Officer to speak to groups and ask
them to spread the word. Another way is to go into the nursing homes and
assisted living homes to assist the veterans and dependents.
We have the obligation to try and reach the 853,000 veterans and 1.1
million dependents that the Knight Ridder report indicated that were
missing benefits. I am sure this number will increase with the returning
troops. We would like to think that everyone is knowledgeable about
their benefits, but we as county veterans service officers see every day
that this is not true. We are telling the newly returning troops of
their benefits. This is mainly due to the fact that the servicemen and
women do not take the time to learn of their benefits. They are just
like their fathers and grandfathers before them, they are ready to go
home and get on with their lives.
Outreach efforts must be expanded in order to reach those veterans,
dependents and survivors that are unaware of their benefits and to bring
them into the system. Nearly 2 million poor veterans or their
impoverished widows are likely missing out on as much as $22 billion a
year in pensions from the U.S. government, but the Department of
Veterans Affairs has had only limited success in finding them, according
to the North Carolina Charlotte Observer.
Widows are hardest hit. According to the VA’s own estimate, only one in
seven of the survivors of the nation’s deceased Soldiers, Sailors,
Airmen and Marines who likely could qualify for the pension actually get
the monthly checks. What’s more, participation in the program is
falling. Veterans and widows are unaware that the program exists. They
simply don’t know about it and the VA knows that many are missing out on
the benefit. “We obviously are here for any veteran or survivor who
qualifies,” said a VA Pension official. “But so many of these people –
we don’t know who they are, where they are.” The VA’s own report from
late 2004 recommended that the agency “improve its outreach efforts”
with public service announcements and other pilot programs. While it
made limited efforts to reach veterans or their widows through existing
channels, it is difficult to determine whether such efforts have been
successful.
Nonetheless, one VA estimate of the program shows the potential pool of
poor veterans and widows without the pensions has remained unchanged the
past four years. The total number of pension cases fell to 541,000 in
fiscal 2005, the sixth straight year of declines. The VA actuary’s
office predicts that pension participation is likely to drop further,
losing between 7,000 and 8,000 enrollees a year and falling below
500,000 participants by 2012, according to a VA actuary report obtained
by Knight Ridder.
Of all those likely eligible, only 27% of veterans and 14% of widows
receive the money. It is obvious that there is a great need for outreach
into the veteran’s community and the local CVSO is the advocate closest
to the veterans and widows. With minimal funding they could reach the
maximum number of eligible veterans and widows. Therefore, NACVSO is
supporting HR 4264 and its companion bill S 1990, introduced by
Congressman Mike McIntyre and Senator Richard Burr, of North Carolina,
that would allow Secretary Nicholson to provide federal-state-local
grants and assistance to state and county veterans service officers to
enhance outreach to veterans and their dependents. We are already
present in most communities and stand ready to assist the Department of
Veterans Affairs with this monumental task.
CONCLUSION
This concludes my comments.
If I commented on any items of interest to the Committee on Veterans
Affairs, NACVSO stands ready to expand on our comments or suggestions
for improving services to veterans.
Thank you.
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