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TESTIMONY OF 

LIEUTENANT GENERAL JACK W. KLIMP 

UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 

DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR 

MANPOWER AND RESERVE AFFAIRS 

BEFORE THE 

SUBCOMMITTEE ON BENEFITS 

OF THE 

COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AFFAIRS 

UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 

ON 

27 SEPTEMBER 2000 

CONCERNING 

VETERANS’ EMPLOYMENT 

 

    Mr. Chairman, and Distinguished Members of the Subcommittee on Benefits, it is a pleasure to appear before you today to express the Marine Corps’ strong support for America’s veterans, and for the many initiatives in place to translate their military skills and education experiences into credentials that help ensure their later success in the civilian community. 

    As directed by the Congress, your Marines are ready today to protect the nation’s interest anywhere, at any time, and under any conditions.  That is why our primary job is to train and make certain we are ready to fight and win the nation’s first battles.  This unique calling requires that we maintain a young force.  Every year we recruit young men and women who want to be Marines and who we believe have the potential to be truly exceptional.  We initially inculcate the Marine Corps’ values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment at our Boot Camps.  Young Marines subsequently train and deploy, while learning valuable skills.  At the end of the first term of enlistment, many of them return to the civilian world, and we believe we send a better man or woman back to society than we recruited.  Every year we return approximately 40,000 young men and women to our society.  We value their service to the Corps and to the country, and believe we are doing much to help ease their transition from the Marine Corps to a successful civilian life.

21st Century Readiness Demands More of Marines

    The nature of military service has changed dramatically in recent years.  The advent of new technologies and warfighting doctrines and techniques requires us to recruit and train in different and more intensive ways than before.  There is far more intellectual and judgmental rigor demanded of our Marines today than ever before.  The nature of tomorrow’s battlefield will require enlisted Marines to make strategic, operational, and in many cases moral choices which were formerly only made by more senior officers.  This is why the Marine Corps insists on Professional Military Education for all Marines and encourages the pursuit of Life Long Learning in all ranks.  The skills Marines gain serve them well while on active duty and later, when they return to civilian life.  We do this in support of our mission; that is, we train to the mission.  What we have also done is to implement a number of programs that help our Marines gain academic and technical recognition for their military experience and training while concurrently offering extensive off-duty educational opportunities. 

Recognizing Job Skills Supports Marines

    The Marine Corps has not come late to the table in recognizing that providing education and training is the most valuable way we can both help the Marine Corps develop Marines and help Marines transition into civilian life.  In fact, the current and past two Commandants have included education and training as primary objectives.  We are experiencing increased participation in our lifelong learning programs as a direct result of this leadership attention.  We strive to give Marines every opportunity to identify and accomplish their life goals, whether towards degree completion or future employment.  We are committed to assisting separating Marines in defining and emphasizing those skills they have learned while on active duty.  Since 1977, we have worked in conjunction with the Department of Labor (DoL) Office of Apprenticeship Training, Employer and Labor Services (ATELS) to implement a nationally recognized apprenticeship program, which leads to a Certificate of Completion of Apprenticeship that recognizes the attainment of journeyman status.  This Apprenticeship Program documents active duty learning experiences and schooling that contribute to achieving journeyman status, improves performance through personal and professional motivation, provides Marines with occupational skills with continuing education opportunities, and gains civilian recognition for skills acquired during a Marine’s period of active duty.  We began with just 27 occupations.  Because of increased leadership emphasis and interest in the Apprenticeship Program we have dramatically increased our occupations through cooperative effort with our sister services.  On April 7, 2000, the Marine Corps, Navy, and Coast Guard joined to form the United Services Military Apprenticeship Program (USMAP).  The USMAP enabled us to expand from 27 to 107 occupations.  Occupations offered through USMAP cross into several civilian industries – servicing, manufacturing, construction, and transportation/utilities.  They include occupations such as Dental Laboratory Technician, Machinist, Carpenter, and Recording Engineer.  The USMAP program has a strong partnership with the Office of Apprenticeship Training, Employer and Labor Services of the Department of Labor (DoL).  USMAP is in final discussions with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to implement a charter designating USMAP as the sponsor to award a Certificate of Eligibility to take the FAA exam for power plant, airframes, and general license.  Service members receive this Certificate of Eligibility as authorization to take the FAA Airman Knowledge Exam, in conjunction with receiving a USMAP certificate of completion of apprenticeship while on active duty.  In addition, USMAP has been coordinating with Defense Activity for Non-Traditional Education Support (DANTES) to propose that DANTES supply and administer the FAA license exams for airframe, power plant, and general aviation at no cost to the service member.  That said, we are proud that USMAP is the largest apprenticeship program sponsor registered with the United States Department of Labor with over 28,000 active participants.  Because of leadership’s effort to increase support of Marines our enrollments have increased 45 percent from 2,242 in FY99 to 9,147 in FY00.  In fact, 600 Marine Corps apprentices have completed the program since its inception.  Enlisted personnel also gain additional validation and recognition for the military training already received as a result of the Apprenticeship Completion Certificates.  I would add that our partnership with the Navy and Coast Guard in USMAP enables automation of the program, increasing its availability and accessibility to Marines wherever they are stationed, and greatly expanding the number of Marines registered for, and successfully completing the program.  We are confident that these efforts will result in better job skills that Marines can use while on active duty and take with them into civilian life.

    In addition to USMAP, licensing and certification opportunities for active duty Marines are available through the DANTES National Certification Program.  DANTES has agreements with 35 nationally recognized certification associations, which allow their certification examinations to be administered at our base Marine Corps Community Services (MCCS) Lifelong Learning Centers.  Currently, there are certification exams available in six fields; Automotive Service, Food Protection, Surgical Technologist, Computing, Fiber Optics Installer, and Certified Technical Trainer.  DANTES is currently working with various licensure agencies to provide funding for the remaining 29 certification examinations.  We provide information on this valuable program to Marines in a number of ways.  In addition to printed information, such as DANTES Certified Professional brochures, test examiners at our MCCS Lifelong Learning Centers provide important information and counseling.  The program is promoted in our base newspapers, and Marines are encouraged to learn more from the DANTES web site as well.  

    The Marine Corps has been working together with our Sister Services and other agencies to improve these services and programs in other ways.  The Marine Corps participated in the Interagency Task Force on Certification and Licensing of Transitioning Military personnel, led by the Departments of Labor and Veterans’ Affairs, which identified existing credentialing opportunities and determined the most effective methods for assisting service members.  The task force has been a catalyst for a number of other actions such as:  expanded aviation licensure opportunities for service members; increased opportunities for Federal Government positions; and establishment of a joint military apprenticeship work group to address the transition from military to civilian employment in apprenticeable occupations.

    Although many Marine Corps service schools and the Aviation Occupational Specialties have already been evaluated by the American Council on Education (ACE) for academic credit, the majority of MOSs have not been evaluated because of the lack of a standardized assessment tool.  We plan to address this by working to have the USMAP certificate reviewed by ACE and recommend academic credit for military skills.  We hope to get the USMAP certificate added to the SMART transcript.  This will enable the SMART transcript to provide the academic and credentialing data on one document for each service member.

 Military Skills -- College Credit

    Another important new partnership between the Navy and Marine Corps is the Sailor/Marine Council on Education Registry Transcript (SMART) program.  SMART transcripts document military education and training and enables their validation by the American Council on Education (ACE).  Academic credit recommendations may then be submitted directly to a college or university for college credit.  ACE produces the most widely accepted reference for college credit recommendations for service schools and service experience. 

    The program’s technology is being developed by the Naval Education and Training Professional Development and Technology Center (NETPDTC), and we have been verifying Marines’ SMART record data since fall, 1999.  SMART is fully operational, and 59,686 transcripts have been issued to Marines as of September 1.  On average, 1,702 transcripts are issued per week.  The combined Navy-Marine Corps year-to-date total is 3,460,400.  Sending young men and women into civilian life armed with recognition for their active duty experiences and training is one of the best ways we can thank them for their service, by giving them the tools to succeed and thrive in the civilian world.  A second benefit is that Marines will translate their appreciation for our efforts into positive recollections of the Corps to their families, friends and acquaintances.  This, we believe, will assist our future recruiting efforts.

The Importance of Transition Services

    The National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1991 recognized the importance of a successful transition from military to civilian life by establishing the Transition Assistance Management Program (TAMP) to support the transition of all eligible separating or retiring service members and their families.   To properly document the separating member’s experience and training skills, the Department of Defense (DoD) developed the Verification of Military Experience and Training (VMET) document, DD Form 2586.  Each separating service member is supplied with a VMET document 180 days before their separation.  The content of the VMET is determined by the member’s military work experience and training.  Descriptions of military occupations held and courses attended are defined; with college credits that the American Council on Education (ACE) has recommended for those courses also included.  In another initiative, the Marine Corps Transition Program provided seed money to develop the SMART program.  SMART, focused on obtaining academic credit, is intended to complement VMET, which is employment-oriented.  Both are designed to help the separated service member obtain employment.

    That said, the VMET is designed to work in conjunction with other transition services and as a tool for obtaining employment upon separation.  It can be used to develop a professional resume, to assist in completing job applications, and to help a prospective employer assess job skills and abilities of a veteran job applicant.  To support this effort, the VMET document “translates” the military language describing experience and training into civilian vernacular.  The VMET can, in some instances, be used to obtain certain licenses and certifications.  In recognition of the need to make transition assistance programs more accessible and usable to separating Marines, the Marine Corps is working with our sister services and the Defense Manpower Data Center to reengineer the document and make it more comprehensively helpful.  Our goal is an Internet-based VMET, with 24/7 access.

    Transition to civilian life is also assisted in less formal ways.  The Marine Forces Reserve is putting the adage: “Once a Marine, always a Marine,” to work, developing a tangible program to help transitioning Marines find employment in the civilian community.  The ‘Marine for Life Program’ proposes to create a Website that links the Marine Corps up to industry leaders who value military service.  The database, which should be ready for its first test drive sometime this month (September), will identify prior-service Marines to serve as civilian employment contacts for Marines who are leaving active duty.  It is intended that Marines receiving this support will become entrenched in the community, business, etc., and will want to help other Marines do the same.  This is a lifetime connection, not just a one-time deal.  If one job doesn’t work out, resources are readily available to try another. 

Life Long Learning Model

    As discussed earlier, changes in the nature of the force and in the nature of how the Marine Corps expects to fight our nation’s battles in the 21st Century have caused us to focus a considerable effort on educating and training Marines.  In 1999, we created a new quality of life organization for the Marine Corps, Marine Corps Community Services (MCCS).  MCCS merged our libraries and Voluntary Education programs into a vital Lifelong Learning resource for Marines and their families.  Voluntary Education (VOLED) programs have historically focused on off duty academic programs delivered in base/station education centers by colleges in a traditional classroom setting.  VOLED programs frequently have not collocated with libraries, learning resource centers, or training facilities making it necessary for a Marine to visit several locations to address all of his or her learning requirements.  With the merge of Library programs and Voluntary Education programs, we have taken the first step to serving our Marines with an integrated one-stop shopping concept for lifelong learning.  Options have been identified to maximize resources, eliminate duplication, and improve patron access to services.  Internet access, including commercial online options for periodicals and newspapers, through the Integrated Library System (ILS) in our installation libraries assists education program participants in conducting research.  Standardization of education service agreements will ensure libraries are receiving resource support from our academic institutions. 

    Our Vision 2005 goal is to establish a consolidated center for all learning; professional and academic.  Marines will have one destination for enrollment in a college program, access to research tools such as books, periodicals, the Internet, basic skills enhancement, and nonresident courses for professional or academic requirements.  Our lifelong learning centers will also deliver programs through technology via the Marine Corps Satellite Education Network (MCSEN), Internet, and CD ROM.

Conclusion

    The Marine Corps is deeply committed to the intellectual and academic development of Marines.  There are two major benefits; the Corps gains a more effective active duty Marine and our society gains a more productive citizen upon that Marine’s return to civilian life.  Our philosophy in this regard is simple:  first, we gain a more intellectually able and effective force, better equipped mentally and morally to accomplish the mission; second, we return a veteran to society equipped to succeed as a civilian as he or she has succeeded as a Marine.  Our goal is to take that training and experience needed to accomplish the Marine Corps mission and create ways to recognize its applicability to comparable jobs in the civilian sector.  Via this measure, service to country becomes even more valuable to our young men and women in uniform.  It is a value that benefits both the Nation and its veterans. 

    Subject to any questions you may have, Mr. Chairman, this concludes my remarks.

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